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I'm literally unable to download the Office dmg right now. No download happens when you press 'Install Office'. Now there's one place to manage all your subscriptions'. Still Installs page, now with banner that says 'Your Office 365 subscription info has moved to. Press 'Install Office' (its a secondary/white button that blends into background, whereas 'New doc' is a blue button).Ħ. Office / OneCloud homepage ("Good evening").
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But I do generally agree that there is too much friction getting this "must-have" piece of software I don't care for Office much, but denying its influence and widespread usage is a task best relegated to those who think everybody should write in LaTeX.ĥ.

If you have an Office 365 account, all you need to do is go to, sign in, and there's a big friendly "Install Office" button right there. > Have you tried to download Office from their website?
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(And if their code is MVC-compliant in the Cocoa way, that should't be too big an issue you can mix and match views and controllers from AppKit and UIKit!) help developers see the potential of proper macOS apps (I'll take these big developers' emulations of Cocoa over UIKit-on-macOS any day), and smaller developers will follow suit. I'm actually hoping that things like Office 365, Lightroom CC (and perhaps the other Adobe apps), BBEdit, etc. Get your iOS apps running on macOS, and slowly move them to native macOS paradigms. I'm fairly sure Marzipan is a stopgap, not a platform unto itself. Yes, I suppose things will change with the next version of macOS, but there's no real way to avoid the fact that UIKit on macOS doesn't make proper macOS apps - and developers will have to decide what matters more time to market or customer satisfaction. Their non-nativeness screams out: they don't respond properly to gestures, many macOS Services don't work in them, and the user interfaces are laggy. The few apps that Apple has given us are. I suppose that the Marzipan project, of iOS frameworks on macOS, should prove me wrong but I still don't think so. They don't target the lowest common denominator. Apple's been against that sort of thing for a long time, and I don't see that changing any time soon. > which you have to imagine is something Apple wants in the years ahead as platforms converge on common software stack and UX They have automated updates but its hard to trust that process won't result in issues when documents are open, and it presents a lot of cognitive load to users on top of the OS & App Store updates.

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When I visit my parents, they're almost always several versions behind, and as another commenter pointed out, a decent part of that is the autoupdate needing to update itself. Right now Microsoft's autoupdate UX is pretty terrible at keeping things up to date. Seems like a good play from both Apple & Microsoft's perspective. Aside from update UX this is obviously a way to bump their Mac Office numbers. This is a positive shift for them, since being on the App Store means features ship faster and users see value in their Office subscription. I think the issue finally reached a breaking point there and they shifted to UX > control. Coupled with the poor autoupdate UX on Mac, and it's almost like Microsoft doesn't want you to have Office on Mac. You have to log in to your Live account, then go to a particular page to manage your existing Office installs that is super confusing.

Have you tried to download Office from their website? It's a horrible, braindead experience. It's also a signal that the App Store team may now be willing to do the deals necessary to attract MacOS apps back toward this larger strategic initiative (vs just trying to maximize revenue).įrom Microsoft's perspective, now that Windows is sidelined, Office is their primary consumer platform and that means UX outweighs any strategic tax of trying to make the Windows version better. I see this potentially as groundwork for the eventual integration of Mac and iOS App Stores, which you have to imagine is something Apple wants in the years ahead as platforms converge on common software stack and UX.
